Wavves and Fucked Up (win tickets!), plus Radio Bistro and one of Dylan’s things

September 26th, 2011 · 9 Comments · By

Wavves and Fucked Up are playing at the Jefferson Theater tonight; I’m really excited to see bands like this coming through town, as others of their ilk have traditionally shunned Cville for the crowds in Richmond or Harrisonburg instead…

Anyway, Fucked Up are a sprawling post-hardcore ensemble who have gotten a lot of attention recently; having heard their live show (they played at Outback back in 2009) I can vouch that their live show is pretty great. They’re really energetic and anthemic, something like a hardcore version of Titus Andronicus or something (they also remind me a lot of Order at their messiest and most aggressive); they’ve got a lot of very enthusiastic and dedicated followers, and while I can’t say I’m one of those, I definitely like the band an enjoy their music and I’m very glad they’re playing.

Wavves are quite well-known to the public by this point, but here’s a recap for those who haven’t been following the saga: Nathan Williams is a sarcastic teenaged stoner from California who put out two totally amazing records of super-catchy, super-distorted blown-out aggro noise-punk-pop in 2008 and 2009 (“Wavves” and “Wavvves,” respectively), immediately rocketed to the top of the Pitchfork charts (so to speak), achieved instant internet fame, handled it poorly, had a drug-fueled on-stage break-down (reportedly causing his drummer / sole bandmate to quit and join Harrisonburg’s Super Vacations — California’s loss is Virginia’s gain), then did a “comeback’ tour with the freshly-departed Jay Reatard’s backing band, got signed to a record label owned by fucking Mountain Dew (seriously!), put out a third album which was kind of OK and kind of terrible (I liked the 25% of the record that sounded like Animal Collective, hated the 75% of the record that sounded like Blink-182), and has continued being famous by dating another well-liked musician and making appearances on MTV.

I’m a little dismayed by the cult of fascinated disgust around this guy, and the fact that he’s basically sold out as much as it’s possible to still do that in this day and internet age, BUT I really, really love his first two records and am still holding for more amazing things from the world of Wavves. Actually, he’s apparently got a new EP which I haven’t heard yet (though I did like the Xmas song he did with Best Coast last winter.) If I were going to this show (which I honestly wish I could), I’d be a little bit trepidatious (not helped by the occasionally inconsistent sound mix at the Jefferson) but mostly just very excited to hear what the Wavves live show is all about.

The openers, unfortunately, are Richmond’s untalented and obnoxiously-named Black Girls, but don’t let that stop you from checking out tonight’s show, which should honestly be very very good.

IN FACT, you still have a chance to win some tickets from us! Email me in the next half-hour or so and I’ll randomly select a winner who will get 2 tickets to tonight’s show. The rest of you will have to pay $17 at the door — which, by the way, opens at 7pm, so the show should be underway by 8:00.

8pm is an early start time for a show, and I’ve noticed most shows at the Jefferson tend to be over well before Midnight (sometimes even by 11), so if you’re looking for something to do with the rest of your night, you should definitely come by the C&O for Radio Bistro, the weekly Monday-night listening-to-records-and-drinking event. Tonight’s DJs will be myself and Gabe Cooper, aka WTJU’s DJ Burma Shave (who can also often be spotted in the C&O on Tuesdays playing violin with the Olivarez Trio.) We’ll be playing vinyl records from 10pm until 2am; punk, new wave, country, garage, psych, soul, krautrock, doo-wop, and more! I haven’t done the Bistro in a few weeks, and it’s Gabe’s first gig, so I’m really looking forward to it.

Oh, and I got an email just after Midnight last night about some thing Dylan is apparently putting together at the very last second.  I’m not exactly endorsing the wisdom of planning a mini “festival” in under 24 hours notice in an obscure location on the same night as one of the bigger “indie-rock” shows in town (in other words, have fun playing for each other, guys), but if this had been put together properly it would certainy have been a fun gig. Rather than wasting my words on what’s sure to be a total fiasco of some sort or another, I’ve just reprinted Dylan’s email notice in full (“below the fold” as they used to say in the newspaper biz):



this is the most last minute fest ever

best monday night ever

it will be intense

and direct

and festy

pleez show your love and post it on the blog tommorrow

also last show im booking in cville for some time

sorry for the psuedo crying wolf

ill be moved in nyc in a week or so!!!

here is info on the fest

and sorry its on the same night as fucked up and wavves…this is my bullshit style love it or leave it. : )


also bring somewhere around 5 dollars 4 the bands

the show will b held outside by a bonfire out on stribling extended… the driveway

is the first left before the train bridge on the gravel road of stribling extended
there will be balloons or something to guide you…..


10:00 . CAT SEX
10:30 . GULL
12:00 . BIRD NAMES

info below…

1 AM ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼▲
▲▼members of Quiet Hooves
▲▼Athens, GA weird pop▲

MIDNIGHT ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲
▲▼super tight rock music made by birds
▲▼from Athens, Ga by way of Chicago

11:00 PM ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼
▲▼ tribal infections ▲▼▲
▲▼ http://princerama.com/

10:30 PM ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼
▲▼ G U L L▲▼▲▼▲▼▲
▲▼have you ever seen ▲
▲▼a gull tame a lion? ▲▼

10PM ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼▲
▲▼CAT SEX ▲▼▲▼ ▲▼
▲▼all drums and some sounds
▲▼running list of drummers ::
▲▼Scott Ritchie▲▼▲▼▲
▲▼Dylan Mulshine▲▼▲▼
▲▼Greg Sloan ▲▼▲▲▼
▲▼Adam Brock ▼▲▼▲▼
▼▲ Nate Rappole ▼▲▼▲
▼▲ whoever else…▼▲▼
▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼ ▲ ▼▲▼

9:30 PM ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼▲

9 PM ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼
▼▲ www.dianecluck.info▼
▼▲▼ wonderfull ▼▲▼▲
▼▲ offbeat folk artist▼▲
▼▲ who recently moved ▼
▼▲ to charlottesville ▼▲▼



here’s the facebook event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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9 responses so far ↓

  • 1 steev // Sep 26, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    why is it “selling out” to take $$$ from some sucka corporation who wants to pay you to do the thing you’re already doing? i wouldn’t know, but was it really the Mt. DewBux make his music less interesting (or, more uninteresting)? few of us have had the opportunity to trade our artistic services for randomly-dangled satchels of cash, seems hard to pass judgement. WWUD? i’m much more inclined to separate fools from their money rather than remaining broke while clutching to some sense of rarified sense of Artistic Integrity…but no one is offering me any cold hard PepsiCo cash!

    also: $17?! Now that’s Fucked Up.

    Andy Rooney

  • 2 Erky // Sep 28, 2011 at 12:59 am

    In regards to Dylan’s impromptu gig, miles from being a “total fiasco,” many people came out for what I thought was one of the most spontaneous, electric and frankly positive musical gatherings this town has offered in some time. I think it unfortunate when this internet podium, especially given its place as a source of local information, is used to insert priggish or disparaging remarks about other people’s shows, commentary which only serves to stifle solidarity in an already claustrophobic scene. Dylan for the umpteenth time brought uniquely talented and oft under-appreciated artists to this town, at an intimate cabin setting all for the price of whatever you wanted to give. God help us should people like him leave (oh wait), and our options reduce to overpaying ($17, really?) for Mountain Dew™ fests. Kodus to Dylan, the bands, and the people that came out despite the lackluster endorsement who all made the night something special.

  • 3 nick // Sep 28, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Sparing big speeches about tone/perception, I just wanna say how much I appreciate James’ candor and his SUPPORT for the scene(s). Nailgun is a true public service – many thanks to the folks who make it happen.

  • 4 real talk // Sep 28, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    ∞ ♥ 2 everyone in this fiasco we call life.
    just chill like http://www.corona.com
    there’s no such thing as paying to much 4 music
    but u r in control
    u can do what you want to do
    no ones telling you
    2 pay for the big show
    \\\\\ just relax
    or see a show in the woods
    all options are good options
    just “do the right thing” 4 u
    which lends ∞ room for interpretation
    if you get upset about something
    it’s your fault if you continue 2 b upset
    buck up
    but never keep your feelings to yourself
    & stay postiv

  • 5 James // Sep 28, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    I’m legitimately pleased to hear that the event was a success! I certainly wouldn’t wish for it to fail, and there’s honestly nothing I love more than a good gathering of folks performing and appreciating interesting off-the-radar music. Like I said, if it had happened at a better time with more advance notice, I definitely would have been there myself.

    As for my commentary above, I view Nailgun as not just a source of factual information (x band at z venue at y time) but also a chance to have a conversation, to engage in a bigger discourse about music and the community. Despite my fussy, often acidic and frequently contrarian nature, I do make a concerted effort to keep my writing positive and supportive as often as I can, because the internet is already full of people bitching and moaning from the security of their isolated keyboards, and none of us really need to read more of that or add to the pile (although I’ll admit to occasionally stooping to take a cheap potshot at a larger or more well-established thing like a cuacasian rastafarian band, because a) it’s not like they’re really relying on my support, and b) come on, a band of white rastafarians is pretty funny).

    So I try to keep the content here supportive and enthusiastic, but I’m also really wary of the dangers of being positive ALL the time — healthy journalism has to also leave room for criticism, and as a person with a tiny little soapbox and a handful of people relying on me for information, I feel a responsibility to make comments that are critical (and hopefully corrective) if there are things like a venue with bad sound or bad service, or events that chronically start late, or whatever. I think Nailgun readers should know what they’re in for when they head out to a show, and I think performers and promoters should be held accountable for their behavior — praised when things are done well, and criticized when they’re done poorly.

    Which brings us around to Dylan. Dylan has put together a LOT of shows in Charlottesville in the past 2 years, and a lot of them have been really amazing. I’m glad he’s been here doing everything that he’s done. He’s a personal friend of mine, I like the all the music he performs, and I’m really grateful that he’s been a part of the Charlottesville music community. BUT he does have a chronic habit of letting the finer details of show promotion and operation slip through the cracks, and on occasion it’s led to more a than a few smaller disasters. There’s been shows where hardworking touring bands should have been paid and weren’t, there’s been times where well-established artists were confirmed but then the event received absolutely zero promotion or support, and that’s not even counting the nearly-ubiquitous last-second re-shuffling of performers at almost every single event. Added to which there’s the frequently irresponsible and childish behavior during Dylan’s performances themselves; I mean, it takes a special kind of obnoxious behavior to get kicked out of an event at your own house (although Dylan is always a gentleman when “offstage,” so to speak.)

    This kind of thing isn’t always a problem, but often enough it IS, and when that happens it’s not fair to the musicians Dylan gets to play, and it’s not fair to the people who come to the shows and support them. It sucks, and one reason it REALLY sucks is that it’s not actually all that hard to do it right. But it DOES take work. Just asking every musician you like to come play a show at your house (or, increasingly, somebody else’s house) is not enough — when you do that, you’re also taking on the responsibility of making sure that that event is run well, that it’s promoted as best as it can be, and that nobody gets screwed over, intentionally or otherwise. Enthusiasm is nice, but it doesn’t make up for poor planning.

    So when I see this kind of thing happening a lot, I feel it’s my responsibility both as a music journalist and as a person who cares about these events to point this out. Maybe if everyone stopped patting Dylan on the head when he does well and rolling their eyes when he doesn’t, and treated him like a grown-up who should be held accountable for his actions, he’d get his shit together and make sure ALL his events go as well as the ones that work. I’m pretty sure he can do it, he just has to decide that he wants to.

    Sorry if this might seem like overly personal discussion and criticism for a public forum, but the thing is: these events are being organized and promoted in the public sphere as well (or semi-public, at least), and when there are issues like this it affects everyone in the community who cares about this music.

    So: that’s why I was being harsh on Dylan in the post above. That said, hearing that this show went well was definitely a nice surprise! I wish I could have been there.

  • 6 ghostfacekillawhale // Sep 28, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    dear erky:

    rather than whinging about how unfortunate and lackluster you think this podium is, start yr own blog. be better than nailgun. increase solidarity. reduce claustrophobia in the scene. add options. refuse to overpay. end priggishness.


  • 7 James // Sep 28, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    hey, Eric (“Erky”) does a lot to support good local music, too, and his words here are valued. There is always room for well-worded criticism and polite disagreement in all directions, I think. I’ve told obnoxious internet trolls to fuck off in the past, but Eric’s civil discourse is always welcome here.

    currently formulating a reply to Steven’s comments re: selling out, maybe I’ll save that one for tomorrow.

  • 8 Shootin' Moon // Oct 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Dylan’s Witchmond Fest was one of the best shows I’ve been to, ever. Ever, ever. Some of us love the off-the-map fucked up road incomplete directions no balloons last minute middle of Monday night renegade invitation; AND Cat Sex, Gull (of course), Prince Rama, Bird Names, and Bubbling Mommy Gun were beyond brilliant. I mean time-stopping dazzling beautiful (women on drums!) hilarious (what was that last cover the Bubbling Mommys pulled out?), totally inspiring.
    I wish all those people coulda gotten the kind of road money 17.00 tickets & a full house woulda handed them, but I love the kinda underground grace that brings a small wierd collection of us all up on a porch together ground zero with music that happens full force fine ANYway like a suprise gift. Thank you is all I gotta say.

  • 9 Maliyah // Oct 17, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Your cranium must be protecting some very valuable birans.